When the plant is asked "will you check your employees more thoroughly", they say "what we do is reasonable, this event is unique, it never happened before and the security police is now looking into the suspects of the sabotage".
Thus we should think that just because it didn't happen before, it can never happen again?
@hypocrisy: there were "jokes" of same level targeted on Sosnovy Bor nuclear plant not far from St.Petersburg, Russia - someone spreaded rumors to kindergartens that they shall nto let kids out for day, and it all started to rotate wheels of rumors in Russia. All public statements, even included Green party, didn't help - the louder you say "everything is Ok", the worse suspicion is...
@silpol This was an actual event though, which is a bit different from some common joes deciding to start up a rumour.
Then, Russia is a bit different from Sweden in terms of how the people view the "official agencies" etc. In Russia (as in some other countries, for example Italy or Greece) everything (sic) is seen as a "conspiracy", where-as in Sweden people are more of the "do what you are told" type and silently accepts whatever is handed to them (with a bit of grumbling at the dinner table of course :D).
Yes, stereotyping, but sometimes stereotypes can be quite accurate ;P
@hypocrisy: well, the behaviour "do what you are told" doesn't sound smart to me - the more I live in Finland (which is almost 100% copycat from Sweden in this sense), the more I see how they are used and brainwashed... not that I am running to streets to shout loud "you are used and brainwashed" :D I presume Swedes are same, right? :)
The human beings are natural social creatures, trusting more the attitude of their peers than their own nascent views. We are laumasieluja like we say in Finnish. :) I can actually see the beginnings of a hive mind developing on top of existing societies facilitated by the social software meme.
@jkniiv well, I'd rather suggest to avoid to talk on behalf on all human beings - granted what I observe from latest history, major part of human population does not necessarily support your personal opinon(s) or classical Finnish behavioral cliche's :)
@silpol On the other hand, Russians allowed themselves to be dominated under the tsars and communistic dictatorship, so one should not throw rocks in one's glass house :)
One a related note:
"[ISN] Russian nuclear power websites attacked amid accident rumors"
MOSCOW, May 23 (RIA Novosti) - Hackers attacked Russian nuclear power
websites that allow users to check radiation background amid false
rumors of a nuclear accident in northwest Russia, a nuclear industry
official said on Friday.
On Tuesday and Wednesday, several Internet forums carried reports of
radioactive emissions from the Leningrad Nuclear Power Plant near St.
Petersburg, and of a planned evacuation of local residents.
A spokesman for the Rosatom state nuclear corporation said the cyber
attacks had been planned and coincided with the release of the reports.
"People who stand to lose out from the Russian nuclear power industry's
development have an incentive to spread false rumors of an accident at
the nuclear plant," he said.
"This was a planned action by hackers, which has brought down almost all
sites providing access to the Automatic Radiation Environment Control
System (ASKRO), including the Leningrad NPP site, the rosatom.ru site,
and others. For several hours users were unable to reach the sites and
obtain reliable information on the situation at the plant."
ASKRO is part of a permanent environment and sanitary control system,
one of whose functions is to inform the population on radiation
security. Access to the system is open to all visitors on a number of
Russian nuclear industry websites. The system works in real-time.
Access to ASKRO data has now been fully restored, the spokesman said.
He said this was not the first incident of its kind in Russia. Last
year, after similar false reports of an accident at the Volgodonsk
nuclear plant, several dozen people, believing they could offset
radiation damage by consuming large amounts of iodine, fell ill after
poisoning themselves.
11 comments so far
Madness, Chaos, whatever it is, something is going wrong with those wanna-be bombers' heads!
1 year, 6 months ago by chelx
I am afraid that they are more than "wanna-bes".
When the plant is asked "will you check your employees more thoroughly", they say "what we do is reasonable, this event is unique, it never happened before and the security police is now looking into the suspects of the sabotage".
Thus we should think that just because it didn't happen before, it can never happen again?
Geez, I don't like this way of thinking.
1 year, 6 months ago by hypocrisy
@hypocrisy: there were "jokes" of same level targeted on Sosnovy Bor nuclear plant not far from St.Petersburg, Russia - someone spreaded rumors to kindergartens that they shall nto let kids out for day, and it all started to rotate wheels of rumors in Russia. All public statements, even included Green party, didn't help - the louder you say "everything is Ok", the worse suspicion is...
1 year, 6 months ago by silpol
Why people never the lessons? Do they really want something to be happen, then some actions will be done? sigh...
1 year, 6 months ago by chelx
@silpol This was an actual event though, which is a bit different from some common joes deciding to start up a rumour.
Then, Russia is a bit different from Sweden in terms of how the people view the "official agencies" etc. In Russia (as in some other countries, for example Italy or Greece) everything (sic) is seen as a "conspiracy", where-as in Sweden people are more of the "do what you are told" type and silently accepts whatever is handed to them (with a bit of grumbling at the dinner table of course :D).
Yes, stereotyping, but sometimes stereotypes can be quite accurate ;P
1 year, 6 months ago by hypocrisy
@hypocrisy: well, the behaviour "do what you are told" doesn't sound smart to me - the more I live in Finland (which is almost 100% copycat from Sweden in this sense), the more I see how they are used and brainwashed... not that I am running to streets to shout loud "you are used and brainwashed" :D I presume Swedes are same, right? :)
1 year, 6 months ago by silpol
The human beings are natural social creatures, trusting more the attitude of their peers than their own nascent views. We are laumasieluja like we say in Finnish. :) I can actually see the beginnings of a hive mind developing on top of existing societies facilitated by the social software meme.
1 year, 6 months ago by jkniiv
@jkniiv well, I'd rather suggest to avoid to talk on behalf on all human beings - granted what I observe from latest history, major part of human population does not necessarily support your personal opinon(s) or classical Finnish behavioral cliche's :)
1 year, 6 months ago by silpol
@silpol On the other hand, Russians allowed themselves to be dominated under the tsars and communistic dictatorship, so one should not throw rocks in one's glass house :)
One a related note: "[ISN] Russian nuclear power websites attacked amid accident rumors"
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080523/108202288.html
23/05/2008
MOSCOW, May 23 (RIA Novosti) - Hackers attacked Russian nuclear power websites that allow users to check radiation background amid false rumors of a nuclear accident in northwest Russia, a nuclear industry official said on Friday.
On Tuesday and Wednesday, several Internet forums carried reports of radioactive emissions from the Leningrad Nuclear Power Plant near St. Petersburg, and of a planned evacuation of local residents.
A spokesman for the Rosatom state nuclear corporation said the cyber attacks had been planned and coincided with the release of the reports.
"People who stand to lose out from the Russian nuclear power industry's development have an incentive to spread false rumors of an accident at the nuclear plant," he said.
"This was a planned action by hackers, which has brought down almost all sites providing access to the Automatic Radiation Environment Control System (ASKRO), including the Leningrad NPP site, the rosatom.ru site, and others. For several hours users were unable to reach the sites and obtain reliable information on the situation at the plant."
ASKRO is part of a permanent environment and sanitary control system, one of whose functions is to inform the population on radiation security. Access to the system is open to all visitors on a number of Russian nuclear industry websites. The system works in real-time.
Access to ASKRO data has now been fully restored, the spokesman said.
He said this was not the first incident of its kind in Russia. Last year, after similar false reports of an accident at the Volgodonsk nuclear plant, several dozen people, believing they could offset radiation damage by consuming large amounts of iodine, fell ill after poisoning themselves.
1 year, 6 months ago by hypocrisy
@hypocrisy What is a fonzie?
1 year, 5 months ago by baRcodZ
i como from twitter
1 year, 5 months ago by cmilfont